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hi

anyone out there can tell me about this coin ?   Ive searched and seached and no luck.  He does not have a beard.   Its of bronze type and I found it yesterday, first time out in ages !

Just washed it gently Peter !!  lol  done nothing else to it.

Take care and thanks

H

weldone heather,im still looking for a decent roman coin

stunning coin H,great condition for bronze,well found.

it looks alot like Hadrian,salus seated holding maybe serpent in the left hand?
expert advise needed.

Lovely condition coin Heather well done, I can't be sure who it is, though Peter may know. I feel Wayne's id is as good as you'll probably get. One thing are you sure it's a bronze? as at this period there is no small copper coinage and that one does look awfully like a Denarius even if only a contemporary forgery.

Well done H...nice coin......... ;D

thanks for the comments :)

It came up brown, no green on it at all - after lightly washingit it,  its still browny colour.   The copper ive brought up is normally corroded and green, no idea if its is or not a bronze type - i did read that they used different metals in some of their coins, but its baffling the amount of coins they produced. ???

shall await any more info :)

thanks again.

H

well done h , lovely find

looks like a denarius of antoninius pius,

changed my mind  :) denarius of Hadrian, lovely find, Im sure Pete will give you an ID :)

nice find --- whoever it is, its in the 3rd year of his reign [COS III], that should help with the dating

Great find Heather. It's silver, and a denarius of Hadrian as Maxine said.
I believe it is this one:

Hadrian, AR Denarius, 119-122, Rome
IMP CAESAR TRAIAN-HADRIANVS AVG
Laureate bust right
P M TR P-COS III
Salus seated left, feeding snake coiled round altar from patera in right hand
SAL AVG in exergue
RIC II, 137a (C)

(http://www.beastcoins.com/RomanImperial/II/Hadrian/Z2540.jpg)

Really !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

Its silver !!!  well im astounded

You are "the man" peter LOL

Thank you so much wow silver !   why on earth did it come up this colour ???

Thanks

H

A nice find, soak it in lemon juice for a few days

Hi H

Wow, well done that Gal.  You gave yourself the answer. 'Why on EARTH'
Peter found one at St.Clears that was almost black when it came up. I heard about it and was expecting to see something all shiney. I was quite disappointed when he showed it to me but it cleaned up well as the pici proved that he posted.

Val

I've had quite a few come up that colour, could be iron/rust stained. :)

I only really learned this year that the colours can vary so much (which is worrying as to what I put down as a grot in the past :-\) and it seems that unless your lucky enough to find a Denarius from either the republic or up to Claudius, from then on they get progressively debased, until during the reign of Septimius Severus the silver is just there as a colouring. So the discolouration is not so much the silver but all the other metals that have been alloyed with it.

thanks to everyone for the advice, but to clean or not to clean !  LOL

I dont know, its got to go to the museum first to be recorded, so I wont do anything to it until it comes back, but ummmmm. 

take care

H

The shape of the area around the head looks like a moulding ridge. Could mean its a copy, but that means its probably more valuable than the original.

Silver of hadrians reign was pretty naff in some cases. I have a silver washed Hadrian denaruis forgery that has a copper core.

Silver can react to animal excrement and turn black on the surface (silver nitrate)if its pretty pure, or form a chemical compound with the copper from bronze coinage to form copper nitrate which is a green powdery stuff. If the silver has been debased a lot (Mixed with copper or lead) it can look like old lead or pewter. I have a denarius of maximius that looks exactly like a pewter coin and never looks shiney no matter how much you clean it. Pure silver will clean up well with warm water and borax, but debased silver can be damaged by too rigorous cleaning.

I would leave it till the flo sees it and ask him what to do with it.

Eric

I think you'll find it should read "silver sulfide" not Nitrate.
Also, who's Maximius?

Maximinus Thrax (Latin: Gaius Julius Verus Maximinus Augustus;[2] c. 173 – 238), also known as Maximinus I, was Roman Emperor from 235 to 238.

Maximinus is described by several ancient sources, though none are contemporary except Herodian's Roman History. Maximinus was the first emperor never to set foot in Rome.[3] He was the first of the so-called barracks emperors of the 3rd century; his rule is often considered to mark the beginning of the Crisis of the Third Century. He died at Aquileia whilst attempting to put down a Senatorial revolt.

I missed the "n" on the keyboard.

Eric

thanks so much Eric and everyone else, hope you all enjoyed christmas.

Took it to Mark at the Museum to be cataloged and identified and he said "ummm interesting !!" but edward was not there so hopefully will get it back at the cardiff jan scan club meeting and will know once and for all.

Really weird though thinking about it being a forgery !   lol 

Take care

H