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Title: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: stickygreen on November 03, 2013, 02:29:37 PM
I'm getting very frustrated with my sovereign im using the 15" wot coil it just wont shut up its constantly going off in my ear and driving me insane.
so i either want something else for the beach or i will give up on beach detecting all together.


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 03, 2013, 02:51:54 PM
Turn your sensitivity down ???
Nothing else comes close so either learn your machine or as you say give up ;)


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: stickygreen on November 03, 2013, 02:54:32 PM
whats the best way to pin point with the gt?


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 03, 2013, 02:55:41 PM
Most of us who used the Sov+WOT combination changed to the 12"x15" SEF when it came out as it's more stable and so you don't get the same falsing at high sens.


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 03, 2013, 02:58:30 PM
whats the best way to pin point with the gt?


Wiggle! the Sovereign wiggle that is.......just reduce width of swings and you can get the centre down to an inch swing. Or you can use the pinpoint function ;)


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: stickygreen on November 03, 2013, 03:02:24 PM
im doing my best with it im just not getting the hang of it,  i want to so i will give it a bit more time, do you if the 13" ultimate coil is better than the wot?



Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 03, 2013, 03:16:20 PM
More stable yes, though you may loose some depth but that's the trade off with any machine or coil, the quieter it is the less sensitive to small items it's bound to be.
My advice would be to buy Celtic spikeys coil if it's still for sale, 15" depth while not being effected by so much mineralisation due to the narrow footprint.
http://www.detectingwales.com/index.php?topic=19127.0 (http://www.detectingwales.com/index.php?topic=19127.0)


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: alun on November 03, 2013, 04:08:44 PM
Exactly what Geoff said, knowing your unit is 90% of the game. Sovereigns are really good beach units, but I use a whites DFX, which I can use with confidence as i have learnt to understand the unit. It is no better than the sovereign but its what I am use too.
Keep going buddy it will come in time.  ;)


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: celticspikey on November 03, 2013, 06:07:48 PM
I'm getting very frustrated with my sovereign im using the 15" wot coil it just wont shut up its constantly going off in my ear and driving me insane.
so i either want something else for the beach or i will give up on beach detecting all together.
Am I correct in thinking you have got a Sovereign GT ;) ;)with the WOT coil stickygreen


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: stickygreen on November 03, 2013, 06:26:56 PM
 you are.


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: Da Monkey on November 03, 2013, 06:34:11 PM
Love my DFX on the beach, nice & quiet and finds the goods as well as my Minelab EX2...


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: celticspikey on November 03, 2013, 07:33:28 PM
you are.
Well what I can say mate is that I have had Sovereigns for years, and a few months ago I decided to upgrade to a GT ??? this was a big mistake >:( where as my Elite with the WOT coil was stable and ridiculously deep on the beach, the GT was frustratingly unstable and drove me mad, it was also as bad on my roman sites , my advice would be to get  rid of the GT, and  get an Elite ;) defiantly keep your WOT coil for the beach, I also use the ultimate coil but it to was useless with the GT, ??? ??? don't ask me why it just was, I have heard from dealers to that the GT is unstable, DO NOT GIVE UP MATE,GET RID OF IT  ;) ;)


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: sandpiper on November 03, 2013, 09:01:59 PM
Hi
My first thoughts that there may be an issue with the coil, if you have the standard coil swop it over and see if the   false signals stop  and it stabilizes .
Secondly if theres any sand between the coil cover and the coil it will sound off -Its a well known issue- take off the coil cover and see if it improves .If that works then seal the coil cover onto the coil with silicone or something similar so that sand and water are kept out.
Thirdly dont try too much sensitivity at first set it at 12 o'clock or 1 o'clock or even in auto to start.

The sovereigns are in my opinion the best beach machines out there ,don't give up - first find and eliminate the problems.Stick with it-  you will have great times on the beach.
My sovereign took some time getting used to -at first it used to blow my ears off and I had all sorts of learning problems with falsing but I've had it since 1999 and boy I wouldn't be without it and I normally only use the standard coil,
Hope that helps .good luck.


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: stickygreen on November 03, 2013, 10:35:18 PM
thanks celticspikey very helpful.

first thing i did was clean under the coil cover and seal with silicon and today was running sensitivity at 3 oclock which is too low, ive read that some use sovereign on max sensitvity but with mine and the coil im using it wouldnt be possible not even close.


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 03, 2013, 10:57:54 PM
Ummm ??? 3 o'clock...now that doesn't sound right. Was it new ie under guarantee? You need to find someone else with a GT to try your coil on their machine and theirs on yours to see if either has a fault.


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: stickygreen on November 03, 2013, 11:15:27 PM
no wasnt brand new but was from mike longfield, i dont know anyone with sovereign and im way out in west wales the coil seems ok on pasture with sensetivity around 11-12 mark.

have you used the gt? could celticspikey be on to something?


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: musket ball on November 04, 2013, 12:02:27 AM
i use the gt and find it a great machine.had a good few rings with it.and im still learning.try vol to max and sens at about 12 o clock and you should do ok.the only time mine plays up is when sand gets between coil and cover.and yes it does my head in.dont give up cos its a very good bit of kit


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 04, 2013, 12:15:03 AM
Yes I sold mine not long ago and never had any stability problems but as I said I ditched the WOT coil about 5 years ago. You really need to try a different coil before you give up on it  ;)


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: dances with badgers on November 04, 2013, 07:10:19 AM
my sovereign becomes stable at the 11 o clock sens mark most days,stick with thw sov they are awsome.i use mine with a 15'' sef coil.sounds like yours might need a service or coil is faulty


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: stickygreen on November 04, 2013, 07:16:39 AM
where can i get it serviced?

badgers is your a gt?


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 04, 2013, 08:42:52 AM
Here you go but I would really try and get that coil checked before sending it off, as coils are non-repairable (other than the plug) and it could save you the cost of postage if the machine is fine.
http://www.metaldetectorrepair.com/ (http://www.metaldetectorrepair.com/)


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: stickygreen on November 04, 2013, 09:09:47 AM
ok cheers geoff i dont where i can check the coil i dont live near anyone that i know of that has a sovereign.


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 04, 2013, 09:23:17 AM
What town are you close too?


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: stickygreen on November 04, 2013, 10:20:16 AM
my nearest town is carmarthen about 40 mins from me.


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: dances with badgers on November 04, 2013, 10:01:34 PM
no mine is the elite bud


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 04, 2013, 10:09:58 PM
Mike it doesn't matter which it is all the Sovs are the same.


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: celticspikey on November 05, 2013, 10:49:52 AM
no wasnt brand new but was from mike longfield, i dont know anyone with sovereign and im way out in west wales the coil seems ok on pasture with sensetivity around 11-12 mark.

have you used the gt? could celticspikey be on to something?
Plenty of friendly helpful advice from experienced beach boys as I thought you would get ;) my GT played up even in auto, I to thought it was coil may be, tried it with cover of, no difference, went back to Elite every thing fine ??? ??? just my experience with it, persevere keep WOT coil if you can, good luck mate. ;) ;)


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: brickie58 on November 05, 2013, 10:58:43 AM
hi sticky, I had the same problem as you turned out to be 3 cracks in the cable about 4 inches from the coil filled them in with silicone fine now, so check it out good luck with it.


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: stickygreen on November 05, 2013, 08:04:41 PM
cheers for all the replies guys will have a good look for cracks in the cable if i cant get it quiet i will sell the gt and buy an elite.


Title: Re: whats the best NON minelab beach detector?
Post by: dances with badgers on November 09, 2013, 10:00:16 PM
maybe your leads near the srew plug have a problem like a break.simple to fix.or the breach your doing has loads of targets on it.where are u situated?you can try my coils to see if it cures it if you want.i have a nuber of coils you can try..dont sell your machine yet ,they are awsome.and will keep their money for a while.
 mike
 p,s if your are seliing it im up for buying it i love them


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