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Title: George 111 1820 Shilling Post by: rjm on January 03, 2011, 09:46:30 PM Found a George 111 shilling today. was in a bit of a state and took a lot of cleaning. I can't agree with the don't clean brigade. I'd rather the shiny version any day. Title: Re: George 111 1820 Shilling Post by: nfl on January 03, 2011, 09:53:28 PM it may be me in my advanced years,but have you checked that it is silver,looks a little bubbly and the colour isnt quite right,,,i do stand to be corrected but.............
Title: Re: George 111 1820 Shilling Post by: shunggav on January 03, 2011, 09:55:40 PM Nice fine rjm i agree.very nice clean It did not even look silver. Before
Title: Re: George 111 1820 Shilling Post by: Chef Geoff on January 03, 2011, 09:56:20 PM Paul I was just going to post the same thing. The toning is all wrong for solid silver and it should of been easy to clean with water and silver paper.
Title: Re: George 111 1820 Shilling Post by: rjm on January 03, 2011, 10:09:23 PM I did wonder myself if it was silver as it normally keeps shiny if it is. This coin was about 3" - 4" down next to a stone wall built sheep shelter of about Georgian date. I guess it's had many years of sheeps urine and that's caused the bad discolouring. I've used silver polish and I'm certain it's not plated silver. It's been well worn in antiquity so I doubt it's a forgery. It's just a well worn George 3rd shilling maybe worth £5! Title: Re: George 111 1820 Shilling Post by: Chef Geoff on January 03, 2011, 10:15:52 PM No the forgeries weren't plated Bob, they just had a low silver content that's what causes the wrong discolouration, easy way to tell is to pop it in lemon juice for ten minutes if it's silver nothing will happen. Spit and silver paper will clean good silver regardless and silver polish should never be used on coins IMHO, I'm all for cleaning but not polishing.
Title: Re: George 111 1820 Shilling Post by: staterchaser on January 03, 2011, 10:20:06 PM Something isnt quite right here Bob, very fishy! If it's the same coin why use a different camera or different res settings? :-\
Title: Re: George 111 1820 Shilling Post by: nfl on January 03, 2011, 10:22:04 PM i agree with geoff here bud,we are defo looking at a ringer lol,later this week i will post a ringer 1818 half crown and its the same look .
Title: Re: George 111 1820 Shilling Post by: James on January 03, 2011, 11:29:56 PM my dad found a George IV half crown a few weeks ago in the same condition as the shilling you found, used foil to clean it but it went funny like your one and it don't sound like silver if you drop it on a hard surface it makes a dull noise like lead. so i would put my money on a forgery.
Title: Re: George 111 1820 Shilling Post by: Stred (Steve) on January 04, 2011, 06:27:29 AM I would have to go with the majority on this one, if it was silver it would clean up reasonably easy.
Forgery I would say. Title: Re: George 111 1820 Shilling Post by: rjm on January 04, 2011, 12:12:19 PM Something isnt quite right here Bob, very fishy! If it's the same coin why use a different camera or different res settings? :-\ I got a new camera (waterproof) and the close up function works quite well. I then used my USB 400X camera as I wasn't quite happy with the close ups due to shadow (I prefer natural light). I just chose what I thought was the best from the two sets. well spotted Ceri! :D If it isn't silver then it's silver mixed with alloy. I'll take it to the FLO and see if he can get Mr Besley to confirm. |