Help/advice Gold "posy" ring 17/8c
peeve:
Hi guys,
I found a posy ring on land in Pontyclun last year and reported it to Cardiff museum. Ive had the report back and its dated 1650-1750.
Ok question - the museum will not say that it is "at least 300yrs old" only that it favours an earlier date to the ring but cannot be sure. Like I said I found the ring in 2014 and declared it in 2015. This leaves a 35yr window where the ring may not be treasure trove. In the next sentence the museum have said they wish to purchase he ring. My worry is that the coroner will side with the museum and I will not get my ring back. So does the coroner need to be 100% sure it was over 300yr old when found in order to be declared treasure or will they allow a 35% error margin??
I'm not looking to sell this ring, id want to keep it and pass it on. I'm never going to find one agian and I know the valuation committee will under value it.
HELP/ADVICE please
Cheers
handyman [Alan}:
" and I know the valuation committee will under value it"
I,m intrigued as to how can you come to this conclusion when you haven't received a valuation of the ring?
as to the other points you raise, the due process is very clearly laid out, you just have to allow the process to proceed and then raise questions as and when the opportunities arise.
An item can be treasure trove under 300 years old .. the following is an extract from the treasure act, with the link provided
https://finds.org.uk/treasure/advice/summary
"Any object that would previously have been treasure trove, but does not fall within the specific categories given above. Only objects that are less than 300 years old, that are made substantially of gold or silver, that have been deliberately hidden with the intention of recovery and whose owners or heirs are unknown will come into this category"
it will be down to the process to decide if it was deliberately hidden or not.
Mike:
well if it cant be proved to be at least 300yrs old the coroner will probably discount it as treasure trove , if it ever gets ti inquest that is , the museum might want to purchase it independantly due to it being a 'local' find , you are under no obligation to sell it to them , good luck mate , hope u get to keep it
The Ferret:
If they cannot prove its date it will be returned.... ;)
If you would like it valued for insurance purposes then contact these guys
http://www.wartski.com/
Don't bother with timeline they will fob you off
DEADLOCK:
I'm in the same boat as well exact same scenario so I emailed my flo and asked him that i wasn't happy to lose it to a museum he basically told me it belongs to the museum now. am awaiting the coroner verdict.
" Hi Alun,
Thought you’d like to know that Mark Redknap at the National Museum has finally written a report on your gold ring for the Coroner. You might have received a copy yourself by now but in summary, Mark has identified some other rings which are similar and concludes that from the style of the inscription it dates to the 17th century."
You will be informed when a date for the inquest is set and will be able to attend if you want to! I hope all is well with you.
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