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Title: Hammered ID quiz 2
Post by: The Doc on August 11, 2009, 10:40:15 PM
Another penny. Who is this, what is the mint? What class is it?


Title: Re: Hammered ID quiz 2
Post by: hedgehog on August 12, 2009, 07:56:10 AM
civi tas lon don, edwr angl dns hyb,  City of London, edward england lord of ireland.


Title: Re: Hammered ID quiz 2
Post by: hedgehog on August 12, 2009, 08:38:51 AM
Would it be , Edward Ist , class 4e , (three pellets on breast , pellet in rev. legend? )


Title: Re: Hammered ID quiz 2
Post by: The Doc on August 12, 2009, 11:16:35 PM
Well done Steve, you are correct.

This coin has a number of features which narrow down the ID:

1. Edward I and II pennies never have shoulders to the bust. If you find a hammered penny with shoulders then it is later.

2 The legend reads EDW R' ANGL' DNS HYB. This legend is only found on Edward I pennies. If you find something which starts EDWA, EDWAR or EDWARD then it could be Edward I, but also might be Edward II, III or IV.

3. The crown on Edward I and II pennies is always an "open" design like this (from a different coin). The side fleurs can have three lobes like these (called trifoliate) or two lobes (bifoliate). Trifoliate crowns are usually Edward I:


Title: Re: Hammered ID quiz 2
Post by: hedgehog on August 13, 2009, 06:43:36 AM
Thanks for posting up a straightforward one Peter, It's nice to see the mystery unravelled!


Title: Re: Hammered ID quiz 2
Post by: KANE (DES) on August 14, 2009, 05:06:04 PM
hi dave have you noticed the legend is in large letters , on your they are in small and the crown tilts to the left on one and right on the other
 all the best
        DES


Title: Re: Hammered ID quiz 2
Post by: KANE (DES) on August 14, 2009, 07:07:17 PM
sorry boys this should have been o the other finds post


Title: Re: Hammered ID quiz 2
Post by: The Doc on August 14, 2009, 07:36:09 PM
I was going to add more ID tips. So far we have ID'd it as Edward I from the legend and with crown as a backup

4. The letters C and E are of an open type, even though it is hard to see this on the coin. This generally means Class 1 to 5.

5.The letter S is egg-waisted, which are found in Classes 3f to 8a.

6. The easy bits are the three pellets on the neck and the pellet in the reverse legend, which pinpoints it exactly to Class 4e, but even without this you should be able to identify the coin as being somewhere between Class 3f and 5.

The reverse is easy, reading CIVITAS LONDON. The mintmark can be a help because some mints only issued coins in some classes, but London coins were issued in EVERY class apart from 3e and 9c.


Title: Re: Hammered ID quiz 2
Post by: Terry on August 14, 2009, 07:44:15 PM
Pete the way you identify coins mate , you are unique,  (a class of your own) . ;D


Title: Re: Hammered ID quiz 2
Post by: ROMAN STEVE on August 14, 2009, 08:53:11 PM
Fare play hedgehog you
are good at that


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