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Title: Idea what coin this is?
Post by: rjm on February 26, 2015, 10:01:00 PM


Sorry about the quality of the pic, but can anyone ID it?



Title: Re: Idea what coin this is?
Post by: Iron Giant on February 27, 2015, 08:06:50 AM
Is it Silver or Bronze and what size is it?

Nice looking find fella  ;)


Title: Re: Idea what coin this is?
Post by: Chef Geoff on February 27, 2015, 09:13:37 AM
Looking at the state of that charcoal drawing I'm guessing it's not yours and so there's little chance of a better image or one of the other side? Horse looking back? My money is on a Carthaginian shekel (or Scipio after the final Punic war) what looks to be an F above the horses back could be the fronds from the palm tree that is on most of this type...as:
(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/Tanit3.jpg)


Title: Re: Idea what coin this is?
Post by: probono on February 27, 2015, 09:35:30 AM
So, how big is it? how much does it weigh? What about a picture of the other side :)

I haven't found a type match for it yet - the carthaginian silver coins I've found so far (and the bronzes too) all have a standing horse, although one does have the horse looking backwards.

I also thought of Ephesus (here it is a stag looking backwards), but in those cases, it is only ever the front half of a stag.

I also thought of coins of Larissa, but again all the ones I have found so far are the horse standing (mostly with the head down).


Title: Re: Idea what coin this is?
Post by: probono on February 27, 2015, 09:44:09 AM
I'm now thinking, that it might be a denomination from Kelenderis, Cilicia,

The type is a goat looking backwards for instance this type:-

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Circa+420-400+BC.+AR+Obol+9mm,+0.75+g.+Forepart+of+Pegasos+right+/+KE,+Goat+kneeling+right,+head+left&safe=off&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=UD3wVNuSKcGzafGegqAP&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=653 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Circa+420-400+BC.+AR+Obol+9mm,+0.75+g.+Forepart+of+Pegasos+right+/+KE,+Goat+kneeling+right,+head+left&safe=off&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=UD3wVNuSKcGzafGegqAP&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=653)
It would nicely explain the 'E' we can see by the 'goat's' head.


Title: Re: Idea what coin this is?
Post by: Chef Geoff on February 27, 2015, 09:51:45 AM
Good shout Probo it works for me though not sure how you would fit the "N" in but the rest looks spot on, now if we could only get a pic of tother side that would seal it ;)


Title: Re: Idea what coin this is?
Post by: rjm on February 27, 2015, 05:50:22 PM


Sorry I can't provide another pic.

It's a coin a woman said her husband bought as a present that he told her was Roman.

The word goat was mentioned in the text - maybe the symbol of Chinese new year?


Title: Re: Idea what coin this is?
Post by: Chef Geoff on February 27, 2015, 05:55:51 PM
What?.......He bought his wife what he thought was a Roman coin with a goat on as a present :o and there's me been wasting my money on jewellery, chocolates and flowers  ;D


Title: Re: Idea what coin this is?
Post by: rjm on February 27, 2015, 05:59:38 PM
What?.......He bought his wife what he thought was a Roman coin with a goat on as a present :o and there's me been wasting my money on jewellery, chocolates and flowers  ;D


Yes, and the guess about Goat was spot on.

I presume the coin is Greek?


Title: Re: Idea what coin this is?
Post by: probono on February 27, 2015, 06:05:04 PM
Yes, it's greek, around 400BC

Here's a better picture - not quite sure how the other link got in, doh!

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/cilicia/kelenderis/SNGFr_80ff.jpg (http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/cilicia/kelenderis/SNGFr_80ff.jpg)

The smaller denominations seem to miss off the whole legend just having 'KE' rather than 'KELEND' - although it seems some have 'KE^' (last letter my feeble attempt at a lambda)



Title: Re: Idea what coin this is?
Post by: Chef Geoff on February 27, 2015, 06:10:00 PM
Here's a better picture - not quite sure how the other link got in, doh!

I put it in as you had just typed gobbledegook as a link that didn't do anything ;)


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